But if it is from God... you won’t be able to stop it
Word For today: July 27, 2020: But if it is from God... you won’t be able to stop it.
Beloved,
I write this post with a heavy heart, but feel it is necessary to do so to perhaps shine greater light where it is needed to be seen so we can rightly discern the times we are now living in.
Let me start with these scripture verses.
Acts 5:38-39
38So in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone. Let them go! For if their purpose or endeavor is of human origin, it will fail.
39But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop them. You may even find yourselves fighting against God.”
40 At this, they yielded to Gamaliel. They called the apostles in and had them flogged. Then they ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and released them.…
I must address some things that God is showing me concerning the new wineskin and the new wine and those speaking against it, partly or completely.
I know that persecution must come and much misunderstanding can come amongst leaders as “new light” from God is shining in our hearts.
But what one would say is causing much damage because of the “old way of thinking is right” could be causing much damage on the “new” God is revealing to us today.
I love the church. I love the gathering of the saints. But I don’t worship the church or the gatherings, I worship God. The church is a created thing. We are God’s creation and we an never worship the “created thing” above the creator.
Do we worship, worship itself when we gather together? Are we left satisfied and say how great worship was today, but beloved was God blessed by it ?
Do we worship the message more than the messenger? Do we worship our Apostle, Pastor, and Leader above or equal to God. Do we give the praise to men more than God. We have in the church age?
What and to whom do we testify after our church services? Who get the praise and glory? Do we leave that time together in the Lord with the whole body functioning together as one voice or purpose in His glory , or did we go to hear another message?
Speaking this does not diminish in anyway the respect and love that God’s leaders deserve as any other part of the Body should be loved and cared for.
It does not diminish their calling or functioning to those who have hearts to hear and eyes to see. What it does, is cause us to see like Abraham, is our Isaac growing in our hearts to the same level of love that belongs to God alone?
Meeting the needs of men before meeting the needs of God is the “root cause” of the mixture in the house of God. Putting the second commandment above the first has caused the worship of other things, positions, titles, ministers, outreaches and what we do above the God who has called us to do it.
I am not going to shut up and not speak it no matter if it is welcomed or not. The first commandment is first for a reason. It is the power source to do the second, loving our neighbors..
It is the power source to lay our life down for others.? If working for God and trying to love our neighbor is our power source without loving God first we end up like the church found in Revelation 2 and 3?
Is it wrong to point this out by the Holy Spirit? Is it wrong to share what God wants us to do to change that and what His word says should happen when we gather together found in 1st Corinthians 14:26?
Did not Jesus rebuke the Pharisees of his day for loving the “traditions of men” more then God. They were the “educated” ones who should of known who Jesus was and were blind to see Him.
Did not Jesus rebuke Satan speaking through Simon Peter saying, “stand behind me Satan, for you are concerned with the things of men and not the things of God.”
Beloved, When God release a “new restorative truth” it has always been the past leaders of those movements that persecute the “new messengers” of the new restoration truth that God is unfolding.
It is human nature to “cling to what we know, function as we know” as if that is the “sure way” God want things done.
I ask my fellow ministers of God one question? Why did God allow a world wide shutdown of the church and the nations? Why did he cause our “works” to come to a stand still?
Would God ever say to His people, He is not pleased with what we are doing? Would he ever say he does not like our present gatherings in His name? Is it rebellious to say that?
Are wounded servants of God hurt by the church saying that? Maybe? But what if God is saying it? What if God has a “forerunning” Generation of Fire Brands he is using to declare it.
Are you going to persecute them? Are you going to call them rebellious? Are you going to say they are not under authority? Are they all lone rangers? How do you know who they have in their life to speak into it or not?
When we tell people to be careful, we need to remember 4 fingers could be pointing back on those who say so?
You don’t have to agree, but we do have to love each other.
For me, I know we are not where we were. Everything has changed. The way we live, move, and breath and function as a body has changed.
For the day we are now in, requires that change. It is the best change we could ever imagine,
Beloved, we are being finished and being made into mature sons and daughters of God to walk in kingdom power, dominion and authority with Jesus.
Yet this change requires two things repentance and overcoming. Many leaders want to skip the book of revelation and keep doing church as usual, meetings as usual as we have done in the church age and that is there choice.
But for me, God is unfolding the road map of Glory in the first 5 chapters of the Book or Revelation. In those books everything is changed in the first 3 chapters to prepare us for chapter 4 and 5 functioning in the glory realm.
For those clinging to the “good traditions of the past” the danger is not seeing the need for the church to repent of the sin found in Revelation chapters 2 and 3 to overcome.
For those “clinging to the good traditions of the past” they may not be able to see that God is not pleased with what we are becoming.
He says, I know your works, your patience endurance, your try those who say they are apostle and are not, but he also rebukes them of deserting their first love.
He also tells them they have a reputation of being alive and are dead. He tells them they cling to the doctrine of the Nicolaitans which is a clergy over the people doctrine that he hates.
He doesn’t hate the 5 fold ministry to train and equip the saints, but the lording of those gifts over others WHICH HAS HAPPENED, NOT WITH EVERY 5 FOLD MINISTERS. Clergy over laity is not the Kingdom of God.
He also tells the church they tolerate the prophetess Jezebel in the house and to repent and he is going to throw those who fellowship with her on a bed of affliction, lest they repent? Is that a good thing to keep in house of God?
Jesus, tells the church in Laodicea, they are warm and ready to be spewed out of his mouth. Is that a good thing to ignore?
These are corrections and rebukes of the love of Jesus, so we can change our hearts and minds to be fit into the ‘new wineskin” of the kingdom age.
Revelation 3:19 Jesus writes, “Those whom I [dearly and tenderly] love, I rebuke and discipline [showing them their faults and instructing them]; so be enthusiastic and repent.”
These words of Jesus show us what we are doing is not the only things God is interested in, he in interested in WHAT WE ARE BECOMING.
What many of my friends in ministry fail to see, that being with God is not doing nothing BUT EVERYTHING.
ARE WE NOT CALLED TO SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD? ARE WE NOT CALLED TO DWELL IN LOVE AND FOR LOVE TO DWELL IN US?
Was David’s cry in Psalm 27:4 just another word, or a heart of a king/priest who understood his first work was to seek the face of God?
I know it is hard to hear that God has brought this time out for a reason and a season.
I realize that we want to go back to work of feeding the poor, saving the lost, ministering to the sick. But these things are not our first work.. seeking God is.
Out of that abiding fellowship with the Lord come divine instructions, wisdom, directions and the revealing of God’s heart to know exactly what to do, what to say, and where to go. For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God
Some Apostles and Teachers are so focused on working they can’t see or understand waiting an coming to God proceeds being sent. What is God saying today? What does God want today? Is it the same as yesterday? Did we even ask?
All the “work of spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom” is predicated upon a deep abiding relationship with God with evidence of that life in us. Our life to be the reflection of his life.
Revelation chapters 1-3 reveal to us the church age of working for God, living for God, but not living with God and working with God as mature sons and daughters of God. God met us there. God changed us in it. God did much in that day and hour and to that we are eternally grateful.
I assert, that we are not in that day anymore. Everything has changed. The kingdom age has dawned and is now being seen and the first hours of daylight has comes.
This daylight brings forth a new understanding, a new wisdom, a new direction that requires us to put down what we have done and known to receive the new wineskin and new wine of the kingdom.
If any minister or person decides to keep the old, that is their choice. If any minister wants to have the best of the old and the new, that is their choice, but they will not be prepared, positioned, propelled and battle ready for what is coming if they do.
An old wineskin cannot contain new wine. God said so, not me. I love the gathering of the saints, but how we gather, and what we do there is critical.
For those clinging to the old I encourage you to read Hebrews chapter 9 Amp Version, and also a great book by Andrew Murray called the Holiest of All.
It is long and deep, but it the revelation of the kingdom of God and could be helpful to understand God forming us into a royal priesthood and holy nation.
To say all saints who don’t have a local church or under local church leadership as they know it to be are wounded Christians or hurt ones is not just intellectual honest. It is an opinion perhaps from one’s own experience, but it does not fit everyone.
Many saints have been called out of local churches, not to find another one, but to find God for themselves.
They have been set apart by the Lord to seek him, find him, outside the camp. The Song of Solomon explains this clearly as the tools and means God uses to mature his bride.
A great book to read about this is the Secret of the Stairs by Wade Taylor, you can find it on his website. The revelation of God calling his “own ones” out of the “church proper” of ministry life is critical for the maturing of the saints.
This does not mean one cant be a member of a local body, but it is not required for this work of personal work in the preparation of His bride.
Often many are “called out of the religious church and even local church expressions, because the leadership make them “the keeper of their vineyards, while their own vineyard or life in God they have not kept.
Those hungering to see the Shepherd outside the camp desire to know the kisses of his lips in true intimacy and want to know where he shepherds the flock of those who do?
In the Song of Solomon 1, he answers her to find the “shepherds outside the camp.” These are Kingdom shepherds and 5 fold ministers.
Two of them I have had the blessing to learn from our Wade E. Taylor and Ron McGatlin. These two men have a deep relationship with the Lord and revelation and experience of the Kingdom of God in reality. These are two forerunners, not the only ones, who are shepherds outside the camp.
These men had no desire to bring them to their work, their ministry, or make you a faithful follower of them. They had one function point you to God, help you find him and teach you the ways of God.
Did they abandon the lost? Did they not visit and pray for the sick? Did they not see the need to share the Gospel? On the contrary, their life in Christ prepared the saints to do those works led by the Spirit of God fully.
They are Fathers in the Lord that taught us how critical dwelling with God is to our relationship with God and experiencing God’s pure holy love continually.
When I first met them, the spiritual substance of Jesus in them, burned in me. I knew these men had been with Jesus. Their words had a weight to them, they were of a different kind them most preachers I heard and listened to.
The manifest presence of God always came in their gatherings and an open heaven came because of the pure worshipping of seeking God with no other agenda of God.
Saints were drawn to the Christ in them. Saints came from all over the world to be with them. They were sent to those who were seeking the Kingdom of God.
Neither one of these forerunning Kingdom Fathers, pastored a local church, nor did they oppose the local church. They taught the function of the local church in relationship to the gory of God.
They did not operate under a time frame, or an agenda in their gatherings, they just taught others to seek the face of God and allow the Lord to lead.
I have tasted of this with first hand knowledge. I have also been blessed by God to host gatherings to allow that same thing to happen, and I have seen with my own eyes and experienced his glory in our midst.
I have seen God send people out into ministry work in that glory. I have seen God supernaturally heal and deliver people without anyone touching them.
I have seen God deliver a woman who was raped 5 times just being in that glory. I saw a woman pastor deaf in one ear, open supernaturally without anyone praying for her, without anyone preaching a message. It happened just being with God.
If you desire to keep some traditions from the past, that is up to you, but I desire the more.. the new wineskin and the new wine.
Let me add, there are Kingdom of God ministers and servants all with different levels of “light” from the Lord with all different levels of spiritual maturity none better than the other.
The older are to train the younger in the ways of God. This is to be disrespectful to no one, but perhaps for us to be slower in speaking against the body of Christ trained and equipped in a different way in the church age.
I started this post with a question? Could God hate our gatherings? Could God be displeased with our meetings? Is that heresy? Is saying this out of being wounded as a minister? Or Could God actually say it.
My question to you is this. Is Isaiah a true prophet of God or a false one? If he is a true one, then in light of Revelation chapters 1-3 perhaps Isaiah chapter 1 could help us see why things have to change and change now.
Gathering together with “true” apostles and prophets is of God. Gathering together as a local company of believers is biblical and necessary. BUT WHAT WE DO WHEN WE GATHER IS WHAT GOD IS TRYING TO TELL US NEEDS TO CHANGE.
Isaiah chapter 1: 10-17 speaks of how God can view our gatherings when we have deserted our love Him as our first love. It speaks on how we can give God offerings with a wrong heart and motive and God hates them..
Please read this, and if this is a word of the Lord that confirms our need to repent and overcome as the King of Gory is speaking to us today in Revelation chapters 1-3
May these words bring true conviction of the Holy Spirit to come and let go of the old and everything to allow God to refine what is his and leave it for us and remove what is not of him to get the greater of His Glory? Is that so bad, beloved ministers of God.
The vision of [the prophet] Isaiah the son of Amoz concerning [the kingdom of] Judah and [its capital] Jerusalem, which he saw [as revealed by God] during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
2 Hear, O heavens, and listen, O earth; For the Lord has spoken: “I have reared and brought up sons, But they have rebelled against Me and have broken away.
3 “The ox [instinctively] knows its owner, And the donkey its master’s feeding trough, But Israel does not know [Me as Lord], My people do not understand.”
4 Ah, sinful nation, A people loaded down with wickedness [with sin, with injustice, with wrongdoing],Offspring of evildoers, Sons who behave corruptly! They have abandoned (rejected) the Lord, They have despised the Holy One of Israel [provoking Him to anger], They have turned away from Him.
5 Why should you be stricken and punished again [since no change results from it]?You [only] continue to rebel. The whole head is sick And the whole heart is faint and sick.
6 From the sole of the foot even to the head There is nothing healthy in the nation’s body, Only bruises, welts, and raw wounds, Not pressed out or bandaged, Nor softened with oil [as a remedy].
7 Your land lies desolate [because of your disobedience],Your cities are burned with fire, Your fields—strangers are devouring them in your very presence; It is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
8 The Daughter of Zion (Jerusalem) is left like a [deserted] shelter in a vineyard, Like a watchman’s hut in a cucumber field, like a besieged city [isolated, surrounded by devastation].
9 If the Lord of hosts Had not left us a few survivors, We would be like Sodom, We would be like Gomorrah. God Has Had Enough
10 Hear the word of the Lord [rulers of Jerusalem],You rulers of [another] Sodom, Listen to the law and instruction of our God, You people of [another] Gomorrah.
11 “What are your multiplied sacrifices to Me [without your repentance]?”Says the Lord. “I have had enough of [your] burnt offerings of rams And the fat of well-fed cattle [without your obedience];And I take no pleasure in the blood of bulls or lambs or goats [offered without repentance].
12 “When you come to appear before Me, Who requires this of you, this trampling of My [temple] courts [by your sinful feet]?
13 “Do not bring worthless offerings again,[Your] incense is repulsive to Me;[Your] New Moon and Sabbath [observances], the calling of assemblies—I cannot endure wickedness [your sin, your injustice, your wrongdoing] and [the squalor of] the festive assembly.
14 “I hate [the hypocrisy of] your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts. They have become a burden to Me; I am weary of bearing them.
15 “So when you spread out your hands [in prayer, pleading for My help],I will hide My eyes from you; Yes, even though you offer many prayers, I will not be listening. Your hands are full of blood!
16 “Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; Get your evil deeds out of My sight. Stop doing evil,
17 Learn to do good. Seek justice, Rebuke the ruthless, Defend the fatherless, Plead for the [rights of the] widow [in court]. “Let Us Reason”
18 “Come now, and let us reason together, "Says the Lord.“[a]Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be like wool.
19 “If you are willing and obedient, You shall eat the best of the land;
20 But if you refuse and rebel, You shall be devoured by the sword. ”For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.
Beloved of the Lord, listen to these words! Did I write them? Is this my view point? Could it be possible when God can no longer bear what we are doing?
Is it possible what we are doing has mixture of flesh and spirit and God wants to remove it? Is it possible the way we have functioned in the past won’t work today.
May we hear the wisdom of Gamaliel today;
38So in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone. Let them go! For if their purpose or endeavor is of human origin, it will fail.
39But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop them. You may even find yourselves fighting against God.”
40At this, they yielded to Gamaliel. They called the apostles in and had them flogged. Then they ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and released them.…
The enemy if he can’t get you to let go fully will convince you to keep some of the old to mix with the new.
I close this post with just one saying of Jesus, you can not put new wine in an old wine skin, for if you do, it will burst and you will lose all the new wine. SELAH
